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Post by Rajiv on Jun 9, 2010 12:48:43 GMT 8
This thread currently deals with the above subject matter. Announcements and developments relating to the subject matter are posted below. Go to the last page (by clicking the largest number to the left of "NEXT >>" above) for the latest announcement/development. As the subject matter has been modified from time to time, as described in various posts below, any given post may not fall squarely within the subject matter. As at 17 February 2014, this first post on this thread was: Last Thursday, Mark T asked me if we could have a game against a team from his new work place tonight. I replied to inform him that I was not keen on using the Wednesday booking for a representative game, as it would affect our regular game, and then leave me with a extra work to re-establish it. As I was looking to re-start the Monday night game, I suggested Monday, 14 June 2010 instead. It has not been uncommon to have a representative game early on when starting or re-starting a session. As it takes a while to have sufficient numbers interested in a new session, a representative game is one way to get it going. We had a representative game early on for both the Saturday afternoon and Sunday evening games at the Premier Pitch. We managed to get good numbers for the game this Monday. I have held back putting up the schedule thread for next Monday, as places would be limited if we were to have a representative game against Mark T's team. I SMSed Mark T yesterday and today. He is not yet able to confirm a team for a game next Monday. In the circumstances, I will proceed to put up the usual scheduling thread for next Monday (a day later than would usually have been the case). I e-mailed Suraj and Anil today, copied to Mark, as follows:
One of the guys who has played with us before, Mark, is quite keen to arrange a 5-a-side game on Monday, 14 June 2010 for his work team.
I have my usual booking from 9 to 10 pm. However, as he hasn’t been able to confirm his team yet, I’m making my usual booking available to my usual guys, and once I do that, I’m not going to use it for a game against another team.
Would you be interested in arranging a team to play against his? I’ve checked with The Cage and a 10 to 11 pm slot is still available. If for any reason, my game is cancelled, I can make my 9 to 10 pm booking available to you.
I’ve copied Mark on this e-mail. His contact number is xxxxxxxx.
Mark, Suraj can be contacted at xxxxxxxx and Anil at xxxxxxxx. We’ve played their team a few times, as we have against yours.
Mark T's number is on the Participant List, as circulated by e-mail once a month. I actually don't have the time to be arranging representative games anymore.
We have a large pool of players, so anyone who is interested can arrange a match against another team, or between two GIFFA teams. Please make separate bookings for any such representative games. Unless it is useful in starting up a new regular game, or in keeping an existing regular game going, I am not prepared to use a regular booking for representative games. |
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Post by Rajiv on Jan 12, 2011 15:53:33 GMT 8
The 5 (or 6) a side mini-league tournaments played over one hour with each team playing three 20-minute games were popular to begin with, but became less so over time, as the games became too intense. Such mini-league tournaments were held when a popular game was oversubscribed, so much so that we could get to 20 players (sometimes 16 for weeknights at The Cage or up to 24 for the Sunday evening game at the Premier Pitch). Instead of turning players away, if two small pitches were available, we divided the players into four teams, with the teams playing against each other in 20 minute games, for example, as follows (with teams A, B, C & D): * first 20 minutes: A v B (first pitch), C v D (second pitch) * next 20 minutes: B v C (first pitch), D v A (second pitch) * last 20 minutes: B v D (first pitch), C v A (second pitch) Teams were ranked according to points, and if level, goal difference. However, there were no prizes. In the alternative, we either had two separate games (which meant less interaction between players), or a knock-out tournament (with semi-finals played in the first half hour and a final and 3rd/4th placing played in the second half hour). The mini-tournaments were usually "impromptu", as they were organized at short notice, where: * There were already several reserves for a game two or more days before the game. * Two small pitches were available. * We could get to 16/20/24 (as the case may be) players. We only had two mini-tournaments last year: * Sunday, 11 April 2010, at the Premier Pitch. * Sunday, 27 June 2010, at the Premier Pitch. Popular games being oversubscribed has been less of an issue since we started having more 7 or 8-a-side games. Almost all our games are now 7 or 8-a-side. The 7 or 8-a-side games on the big pitches at the Premier Pitch and Sports Planet are popular. I propose re-introducing mini-league tournaments with a different format. We have a minimum of four teams and only one game a week, for example, either Wednesday night at Sports Planet or Saturday afternoon at the Premier Pitch.
The process would be as follows:* Individual members sign up as owners/managers of a team. All we need are four individual members signing up four teams. * Fixtures are drawn up over several weeks. If there are four teams, each team will play 3 games of one hour each, played over 6 weeks. * The owner/manager will arrange his own team of 7 players + 1 substitute from game to game. Significantly, you don't need a fixed squad, which makes this different from other league tournaments. One player can play for different teams in different weeks. The only restriction is that at least 5 of the 8 players must be registered members from Member List A. Whether an owner/manager can reach agreement with a player that he can only play for his team is left to the parties concerned. * There will be prize money, roughly equivalent to the entry free. For example, for a four team. mini-league tournament at Sports Planet, I estimate the entry fee at $250 (just over $80 per team per game), and the prize money at $250. The figure will be about $300 for a four-team mini-league tournament at Premier Pitch. I will decide later whether the prize money should be split between first and second place. It will be left to the owner/manager to decide how the cost and any winnings is to be shared between his players. * Save as stated otherwise, the games will be played by GIFFA rules and principles. As the games will be more competitive, they will be refereed. As I am most familiar with GIFFA rules, I will referee the first tournament. Fixtures would be like this: * Week 1: Team A v Team B * Week 2: Team C v Team D * Week 3: Team B v Team C * Week 4: Team D v Team A * Week 5: Team B v Team D * Week 6: Team C v Team A Postponements/re-scheduling will only be allowed if the owner/manager has to be abroad on the date of the fixture. Tickets and passports must be produced.  If there is sufficient interest, we can start a Wednesday night tournament at Sports Planet as early as after Chinese New Year (in February 2011). A tournament on Saturday afternoons at the Premier Pitch could start in March or April 2011 at the earliest. The tournament based at Sports Planet (weeknights) would be separate from the tournament based at the Premier Pitch (Saturday afternoons), so that owners/managers and players can choose the one that is more convenient for them. GIFFA, as with FIOFAFI before, is primarily about convenient participation. Add your views below. As stated above, all we need are 4 owners/managers to sign up. |
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Post by Elvin on Jan 18, 2011 17:07:39 GMT 8
Hi Rajiv,
I have spoken to some of the Mon nite regulars and we are ready to put up a team to participate in a mini league at Turf city on Sat. Let me know if there is enough interest.
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Post by Rajiv on Jan 30, 2011 11:46:19 GMT 8
Doesn't look like we'll have a mini-league at Sports Planet on weeknights in February, but we could still have a mini-league on Saturdays at the Premier Pitch. I'm looking at a 4 to 5 pm slot, before our regular game from 5 to 6 pm. We need 3 more owners/managers to come forward. It will be 7-a-side. 1 rolling substitute is optional. There will be no restrictions on "poaching" players from other teams - the only criteria is that at least 5 players must be on Member List A. If we have 4 teams, each team will be guaranteed 3 games. I'm looking at $288 per team ($96 per team per game), with a first prize of $200, second prize of $88. |
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Post by Elvin on Jan 31, 2011 17:04:14 GMT 8
I dont think many people come to this page and thus may not be aware and respond. Perhaps a better idea would be to approach some potential "managers" directly via sms or phone to round up a team.
For a 4 team mini league, i think it better to keep the prize just to the winner of the tournament.....and a sum of $240 would probably be good enough. That is equivalent to free games for the tournament. Its about pride rather than money....
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Post by Rajiv on Feb 2, 2011 16:32:27 GMT 8
I dont think many people come to this page and thus may not be aware and respond. Perhaps a better idea would be to approach some potential "managers" directly via sms or phone to round up a team. .... The proposal was highlighted in the monthly update for January 2011, circulated by e-mail. As for SMSing: .... I am trying to use the message board as a central depository for participation, discussion and information, and to cut down on SMSing. If registered members are keen on a particular game or activity, and take up is poor or slow, they can always try to canvass support by contacting other registered members and guests directly. The contact numbers I have are found on the "Details" sub-board. You can also use the private message function on this board to contact other registered members. .... The more involved people get, the more the scope for organizing other games and activities. My SMSing would be counter-productive. .... For a 4 team mini league, i think it better to keep the prize just to the winner of the tournament.....and a sum of $240 would probably be good enough. That is equivalent to free games for the tournament. Its about pride rather than money.... The apportionment of prize money is open to discussion. |
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Post by Rajiv on Feb 14, 2011 11:01:17 GMT 8
Currently, our regular games each week are: * Tuesday, 9 to 10 pm, Sports Planet (big pitch) * Wednesday, 9 to 10 pm, Sports Planet (big pitch) * Thursday, 9 to 10 pm, Sports Planet (big pitch) * Saturday, 5 to 6 pm, Premier Pitch (big pitch) * Sunday, 5 to 6 pm, Premier Pitch (big pitch) Extra games are scheduled as and when necessary. If both regular weekend games fill up quickly, we can consider an extra game at the weekend on the big pitch at the Premier Pitch. Likewise, if all the regular weeknight games fill up quickly, we can consider an extra game on a weeknight on the big pitch at Sports Planet. After the lull from the end of last year, through Christmas, New Year, Chinese New Year and Chap Goh Mei (on 17 February 2011), I expect this weekend's regular games to fill up very quickly. If necessary, we can consider an extra game on Sunday, 6 to 7 pm, on the big pitch at the Premier Pitch (instead of 8 to 9 pm). If there is sufficient interest in on/at any other date, time or venue, we can try having an extra game at that date/time/venue. .... The schedule thread for the following week's game will only be put up after the report thread is up, which means that the threads for regular games will be up 5 days before the game (not the current 6). are scheduled as and when necessary. Usually, extra games will be scheduled at least 5 days before hand, but yesterday's extra game was scheduled the day before. As extra games usually won't have a report thread from the week before, they may be scheduled as early as 7 days before hand. As there is some interest in having at least one regular game at The Cage: .... I will try to re-start a weeknight game at The Cage in March 2011. It will be on Monday nights, at the usual time slot of 9 to 10 pm. I may try fortnightly at first, until there are sufficient numbers for it to be a regular, weekly game. If the date/time/venue of an extra game proves to be popular, it can become a regular game (subject to the continued availability of a pitch on/at that date/time venue). As an extra game becomes a regular game, the scheduling thread may in interim be put up 6 days beforehand. Extra games can also be a different type of game: There was no women's game yesterday. The women players are predominantly from the Law Society women's team, and they have resumed their own training on Sunday afternoons, for a contest in May 2011. As such, I may not schedule the regular Sunday evening women's game until after May 2011. In the interval, I may instead re-institute a mixed game on Saturday evenings from 6 to 7 pm. |
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Post by Boris on Feb 14, 2011 12:32:23 GMT 8
totally for the Cage game.. i can't make any of the ECP games as it's just too far.. I did one ECP game 2 weeks ago and reached home at 12am..
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Post by Rajiv on Feb 24, 2011 17:55:22 GMT 8
I've been considering the Premier Pitch @ Khalsa. Although the pitches are uncovered (like the big pitch Sports Planet, making rain an issue), the big pitch is the same size as the big pitch at Turf City. At 36m x 24m, it is wider than the big pitch at Sports Planet, while $120 per hour it is cheaper than the big pitch at Turf City. It might be a good idea to do the mini-tournament there instead. With the lower price, with 4 teams, I can do it at $240 per team. The prize money would $240. Basically, this is how it will work: * The fixture list is drawn up, with one game per week. * Before each match, the two managers/owners put together their teams. It is 7 players per team plus one substitute. The two managers/owners can agree to go to 8-a-side, or to dispense with substitutes. The only requirement is that 5 of the players must be on Member List A. You can use a player who has previously played for another team. Of course, the same player cannot play for both teams in the same match. For each game, the manager/owner could collect $10 ($80 divided by 8) from each player. That would cover the entrance fee. If the team wins, the manager/owner can use the prize money to reimburse the players who played for his team, or use the money to buy them drinks or the like. I'm open to the games being anytime on Friday evening, Saturday or Sunday. I'm also open to their being two games played each week. More feedback please.
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Post by Rajiv on Mar 1, 2011 18:56:26 GMT 8
.... If a game is slow to fill up, I may start SMSing 60 hours before the game, and try to get the game at least 80% filled by the 48-hour cut-off. This is try to avoid having to cancel the game. .... For extra games, as these are games I am trying to start or re-start, I am likely to start SMSing even earlier. |
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Post by Rajiv on Mar 2, 2011 11:25:33 GMT 8
Although only Elvin has expressly stated his interest on the message board, I will go ahead with the 7-a-side mini-league from 31 March 2011 to 12 May 2011. There will be one game a week on Thursday nights, 9 to 10 pm, at the Premier Pitch @ Khalsa. I have decided on the Premier Pitch @ Khalsa for two reasons: * As our regular 7-a-side games have for some time been at either Sports Planet at East Coast or the Premier Pitch @ Turf City, the Premier Pitch @ Khalsa is a "neutral", more central venue. * I would like to try the pitches there, as it is likely to become a regular venue. I have decided on 9 to 10 pm on Thursday nights for the following reasons: * Thursday night should be convenient for both those who prefer playing at the weekend, and those who prefer playing on weeknights. Several of those who play at the weekend also play on Monday or Tuesday night, so Thursday night will fall between their weeknight game and their weekend game. * 9 to 10 is a tried and tested time slot, and proven both popular and successful. I will start a new thread with more details. |
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Post by Rajiv on Mar 2, 2011 12:01:45 GMT 8
The 4-team 7-a-side mini-league tournament will take place from 27 March 2011 to 8 May 2011. There will be one game each week on Sunday evening, from 5 to 6 or 6 to 7 pm at the Premier Pitch @ Khalsa ( 2 Tessensohn Road). A location map is below ( click to enlarge), and can also be viewed here.  The entrance fee for member teams is $240 per team ( which works out to about $10 per player per match). Payment must be received by 25 March 2011. The tournament is opened to registered members to sign up in their own name as owner, manager or captain of a team ("the Manager"). A team name is optional. It will be first-come, first-in, up to 4 teams. The constitution of each team is elaborated upon below. If there are still places available after 23 March 2011, the tournament will be open to guest teams. The entrance fee for guest teams will be $300 per team. The restriction on team constitutions will not apply to guest teams. The four teams are for present purposes designated as Team A, Team B, Team C and Team D, in order of signing up. The entry order will be determined in the order in which the Manager confirms his team's participation in a post below. However, a team's participation is not confirmed until the entrance fee is paid. The fixtures will be as follows: Sunday, 27 March 2011 - Team A (White) v Team C (Red) Sunday, 3 April 2011 - Team B (White) v Team D (Red) Sunday, 10 April 2011 - Team A (Red) v Team D (White) Sunday, 17 April 2011 - Team B (Red) v Team C (White) Sunday, 1 May 2011 - Team C (White) v Team D (Red) Sunday, 8 May 2011 - Team A (White) v Team B (Red) All games will be played on a 7-a-side pitch at the Premier Pitch @ Khalsa. Ther is a "mid-season" break on 24 April 2011 for Easter Sunday (as the pitches are not available on that day). There is no requirement to disclose line ups before the game. Each Manager will be responsible for arranging for his team of 8 (7 players plus 1 rolling substitute) to turn up 15 minutes before the game is scheduled to start. [red]Other than for guest teams, 5 of the 8 must be listed on or qualify to be listed on Member List A no later than 4 hours before the game[/red]. To be listed on Member List A, a player must have played at least once before in a GIFFA game (including an earlier game in the current league) in the past 6 months and have registered as a member of the message board. There is no restriction on any player playing for more than one team. Obviously, no player can commit to play for both teams in a single match. If both Managers agree, the game can go ahead as an 8-a-side. The game will go ahead as long as there are at least 5 players from each team present. 3 points are awarded for a win, 1 point for a draw and 0 points for a loss. If a team does not have enough players for the game to go on, the team will be deducted a point and 3 points awarded to the other team (provided the other team has enough players for the game to go on). If a member team (ie, not a guest team) does not have at at least 5 players on Member List A for the game, apart from any points awarded for the result of the game, the team will be deducted 1 point. If the other team, not being a guest team, loses or draws, provided it complies with the requirement of having at least 5 players from Member List A, it will be awarded an additional point. After all the games are played, the team with the most points wins. If teams finish level on points, goal difference, and then goals scored, will be applied. If two teams are still level, the result of the game between the two teams will be used to decide which finishes higher. If the game finished in a draw, the two teams will be tied. The winning team wins $240. In the event of a tie for first place, the price money of $240 will be shared between the teams tying for first place. The rules for each game will be set out below. The tournament may be cancelled if there are insufficient entrants, or if, for any reason, the tournament cannot go on, in which event, there will be a full refund to to the entrants who have already made payment. |
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Post by Rajiv on Mar 2, 2011 12:23:54 GMT 8
THE RULES[/u] * The game will be for 1 hour. At the half hour mark, the teams will swap sides. * The game will start, and re-start after a goal is scored, from the centre circle. * It is up the Manager to decide whether his team has a designated goalkeeper or whether players take turn in goal. Gloves for goalkeeper is optional. * All players can enter or step out of the goal D, except the goalkeeper cannot handle outside the D. * The ball is out of play if it crosses the goal-line or side line. When the ball goes out of play, it can be either kicked in or thrown in at the re-start. If it goes out at the side line, play re-starts from the spot where the ball crossed the line. Corners are taken from the corner closest to where the ball crossed the goal line. Goal kicks may be taken from anywhere within the D. * Goals can be scored from anywhere. * GIFFA rules and principles on footwear, sliding tackles, reckless or dangerous play, and unsporting conduct apply. * A player may be asked to leave the game for 10 minutes for persistent fouling or a serious foul. A player asked to leave may be substituted if a substitute is available. If upon returning to the pitch, the player commits another serious foul or continues to foul persistently, he may be asked to leave for the remainder of the game. * Other general rules of football, such as no handling, will apply. The above rules may be modified any time before the start of the league on 31 March 2011. I will attend all games, and be available to referee.
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Post by Rajiv on Mar 2, 2011 15:42:37 GMT 8
I've in fact created a new board for the mini-league. I have created a new board under the GIFFA Schedule category for the 7-a-side Mini-League. If it works out, we can have mini-leagues on a regular basis, with more teams even. |
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Post by Rajiv on Mar 2, 2011 16:41:18 GMT 8
The above as it currently stands is attached as a PDF document. Any further changes will be described below. Attachments:
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Post by Elvin on Mar 2, 2011 17:16:29 GMT 8
Hi Rajiv,
the monday nite guys will put a team for this league. Let me know when its firm.
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Post by Rajiv on Mar 8, 2011 17:05:19 GMT 8
Again, only Elvin has put his name down, although others have indicated interest. The Premier Pitch @ Khalsa have gotten back to me to inform me that due to a mix up, they can't confirm the Thursday night slot. I'm considering switching the tournament to Sunday, 5 to 6 or 6 to 7 pm, starting from 27 March 2011. It will remain at the Premier Pitch at Khalsa. Any views? |
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Post by Rajiv on Mar 9, 2011 8:59:30 GMT 8
I have sounded out those who have indicated an interest. Sunday evenings are ok for them. I will decide later whether to make it 5 to 6 pm or 6 to 7 pm.
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Post by Rajiv on Mar 9, 2011 9:01:33 GMT 8
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Post by Rajiv on Mar 9, 2011 23:50:45 GMT 8
The map first added to the first post above only shows the surrounding area (also viewable here, 13 on the scale): ( Click to enlarge)  I've replaced it with one showing the nearest MRT stations (12 on the scale). |
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Last Thursday, Mark T asked me if we could have a game against a team from his new work place tonight. 
