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Post by Yip Weng on Jan 4, 2012 16:44:02 GMT 8
I find Rockstar's post-match commentary to be rather entertaining and would motion for him to be considered for appointment as editor-in-chief of post-match writeups.
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Post by Rajiv on Jan 4, 2012 17:37:52 GMT 8
Rajseran (aka Rockstar) was the "Last Comic Standing" (voting closed at midnight on 31 March 2009). To be editor-in-chief, you need to know spelling, punctuation, grammar and syntax. Let's just reserve the title of "Last Comic Standing" for Rockstar.
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Post by Raj Singh on Jan 4, 2012 22:44:48 GMT 8
Rajseran (aka Rockstar) was the "Last Comic Standing" (voting closed at midnight on 31 March 2009). To be editor-in-chief, you need to know spelling, punctuation, grammar and syntax. Let's just reserve the title of "Last Comic Standing" for Rockstar. Yap but you don't need Spelling , Punctuation , Grammar and Syntax here  and that's the beauty .
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Post by Rajiv on Jan 5, 2012 9:15:12 GMT 8
.... Yap but you don't need Spelling , Punctuation , Grammar and Syntax here  and that's the beauty . Sure, if you're just doing write ups, but not if Yip Weng wants to appoint you Editor-In-Chief. 
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Post by Raj Singh on Jan 5, 2012 10:18:57 GMT 8
.... Yap but you don't need Spelling , Punctuation , Grammar and Syntax here  and that's the beauty . Sure, if you're just doing write ups, but not if Yip Weng wants to appoint you Editor-In-Chief.  Editor in Cheif is a Job that you are paid on and i believe there is when you are more careful when writing . Is the same thing when you are out with friends doing all the LAs and the Ah Yo but is diff when you are at work . Same here , i have got reports to submit weekly and those are strictly with Spelling , Punctuation , Grammar and Syntax CHECKED before submitting.
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Post by Rajiv on Jan 5, 2012 10:26:18 GMT 8
.... Editor in Cheif is a Job that you are paid on .... Maybe Yip Weng can pay you a salary. 
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Post by Rajiv on Feb 6, 2012 16:56:00 GMT 8
.... Currently, if no one else adds a post-game report or comment before then, I put up a thread two days after the game, in the morning. If I did not play in the game, it is a bare thread, inviting others to comment. Either way, I point out that the first to add a report or comment will be credited $2. The schedule thread for the following week's game is put up immediately after, and in any event, 5 days before that game. .... From now on, if I have to put up a bare thread, I'll do so the evening/night before, that is, a day after the game. If I come across a reference to a game on another thread after the game is played but before the bare thread is due, I will put up the bare thread even earlier. I've done this twice recently: * Sunday, 29 January 2012* Sunday, 5 February 2012If I play in the game, I'll put up a report anytime after the game if no one else has done one before I get round to it. I put up the report for Saturday (4 February 2012), the following night. The report thread for the game on Tuesday, 31 January 2012, at East Coast, reached the highest number of page views for a thread on that board, currently, 793. It started off as a "campaign" to overtake the number of page views for the report thread for game on Saturday, 28 January 2012, at Turf City. The number of page views for the Saturday game probably went up as well in response, currently standing at 511. The next two highest are both for Saturday Turf City games, 391 for 15 October 2011, and 343 for 12 November 2011. The only other game with numbers above 300 is that on 22 August 2011, a Sunday Turf City game. With 317 page views, it held the record for a long time. The threads for Tuesday, 31 January 2012, and Saturday, 28 January 2012, also have the highest number of posts on the reports board, 27 and 24 respectively. The two other report threads with more than 20 posts are both Saturday Turf City games, 15 October 2011 and 10 December 2011, both with 21 posts each. Good to see more people using the message board, both posting and viewing. Even more interesting is that players actually take note of the number of page views!
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Post by Rajiv on Mar 25, 2012 23:41:11 GMT 8
As the "Men's Games" category covers both (i) Team Matches and (ii) Regular & Extra Games, the post-game reports and comments for these games are also under the "Men's Games" category, under a separate board. Since 6 August 2011, there has beem a $2 credit for the first player to post a report or comment on a match or game under the Men's Games" category. A few players make the effort to get in first for the $2 credit. Players should be more competitive to be the first to post a report, rather than being overly competitive on the pitch. There's no prize for winning a game, but there is a reward for being the first to post a report. The post-game reports and comments are also useful for the following purpose: * For me to get a a sense of the standard and abilities of new or newer players, or players I am not familiar with, including whether they meet our minimum standard or affect the balance between the two teams. * For me to get a sense of the balance between the two sides to be taken into account in future line ups. * For me to have a sense of whether players keep to the system and rules. * For players to analyse the game, in terms of team organization, formation and tactics, and contributions by individual players. * For general banter about the game or between players. Even if you don't get in first for the $2 credit, do make an effort to contribute. Every schedule thread ends with: For confidential or sensitive matters, you can send me a private message. If it's urgent, SMS or e-mail me, or just call me.
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Post by Rajiv on May 25, 2012 22:25:53 GMT 8
.... .... Rajiv, is there a reason why we can only post post-game reports so late after the match. David has a good memory and a great description, but it would be easier to post thinks immediately after the match or at the latest the next morning? Any approved player can start a thread on the report board anytime after the game. If you look at the report board, you'll see quite a few have. If no one does, I start the thread about a day later, to try encourage the players to add a comment or report.
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Post by Clarence Lee on May 30, 2012 16:10:42 GMT 8
at present, do the team selectors get any rebate? (something like the $2 for writing the reports)
was just wondering if it makes sense to ask the team selectors to write the match reports as well (since they selected the team, they are more likely to be the ones most familiar with all the players). in return, they can get the rebate for writing the report.
just a suggestion, pls ignore if it dun make sense
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Post by Rajiv on May 30, 2012 16:35:11 GMT 8
There are separate credits for each Clarence, $2 for the first report, and $2 for each team selector. However, the credits are only given after the report is up, so there is an incentive for the team selectors to make sure there is a report, or even to put it up themselves.
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Post by Clarence Lee on May 30, 2012 17:33:42 GMT 8
ok so does it make sense for the team selector to get $3 each but they have to file match reports for their respective teams?
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Post by Rajiv on May 30, 2012 18:21:08 GMT 8
Anyone can do the first report Clarence, it's not limited to team selectors/captains, nor was it ever intended to be. They're two separate things. In fact, if you follow this thread from earlier on, the credit for the first report has been around a lot longer than the credit for team selectors/captains. The credit for team selectors/captains came in later. The reason I wait until the first report is up before crediting team selectors/captains is so that I know that there were no major incidents touching upon their responsibilities.
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Post by Rajiv on Jun 5, 2012 8:14:19 GMT 8
When I am not playing, it is easy enough to start a bare thread to encourage those who play to add comments, including a first report. However, when I play, it's hard to just put up a bare thread without describing the game. I usually end up doing the first report when I play. Up to now, my report hasn't counted as the first report. From now on, when I play and do the first report, I'll keep the first report credit for myself. However, I will not do a report immediately after the game, to give other players a chance first. I will also no longer be adding player of the game polls for the games in which I play. .... Any approved player can start a thread on the report board anytime after the game. ..... If no one does, I start the thread about a day later, to try encourage the players to add a comment or report. If I didn't play in the game, then it's a bare thread, and the $2 credit goes to the first player to add a report or provide details.
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Post by Rajiv on Jun 28, 2012 9:07:21 GMT 8
I've been using the following format for the subject of each report thread - "[Day] [Part Of The Day] [Payment Cycle Number] - [Date]" "Day" is the day of the week expressed in full. The "Part Of The Day" is "Afternoon", "Evening" or "Night". We don't have morning games. The date is expressed as "XX Abc YYYY", with "XX" as the day of the month (one or two digits) "Abc" the month in full or abbreviated to three letters if necessary, and "YYYY" the year. Those who start a new thread when they do a report use some variation of this. However, if they use some other word in the title, I will replace the Part of the Day with that word, provided it fits. For last night's game, Kelvin Au used the word "Mambo", so the subject is "Wednesday Mambo at Khalsa (7) - 27 June 2012".
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Post by Rajiv on Aug 26, 2012 10:27:15 GMT 8
A regular who is current injured turned up to watch the game yesterday, and was the first to provide a report of the game on the message board. I have no objections in principle to giving the $2 credit for a first report to someone who isn't playing but comes down to watch the game. However, the credit is stated to be for the first player, which implies someone who plays in that game. If anyone thinks spectators should also be entitled to the $2 credit for the first report, add your views below. Unless and until there is a change in the position, spectators can still provide reports or comments, whether they are the first to do so or not, because they enjoy doing so, or just because want to.
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Post by Martijn on Sept 21, 2012 10:58:43 GMT 8
Hi Rajiv,
I think it is only fair that a spectactor would get $2 credit for the first report. We are already glad that a spectactor would take the effort to show up and often they have the most insightful, balanced and often funniest reports...
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Post by Rajiv on Sept 21, 2012 22:07:05 GMT 8
Well, the counter argument is that spectators get to watch good football for free, and they're so inspired by what they see they rush back to write a report.  As a spectator writes because he enjoys it, does he really need a further reward in the form of a $2 credit? The credit is ultimately a form of "rebate". As spectators don't pay, it's hard to justify a "rebate". I'll put it up as a poll on the Stand-Alone Polls sub-board anyway, to see what the majority think. Anyway, for those who enjoy writing: .... ...., until further notice, I'll give $1 credit to any approved player who provides a first report under the OPSAGE category of any game he plays in (excluding our regular men's games or team matches, which are reported under the Men's Games category) or watches. No one has taken it up yet.
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Post by Rajiv on Dec 15, 2012 9:24:15 GMT 8
The precursor to the old FIOFAFI blog was first set up in late 2007 as a way of recording post-game reports. From early on, I encouraged anyone who played in a game to do a report. It was always intended to be voluntary. From early on, if no one put up a post, I would put up a bare summary, so that anyone who played could add to it. From the old blog, in February 2009: The timing of the bare summary has changed several times, as early as immediately after the game in April 2009. It was soon back to the following morning. Sometime after we moved to this message board in November 2009: .... After each game, any registered member can put up a thread about the game on the Reports board, .... .... From next month onwards, I will wait an extra day before putting up the report thread for games in which I did not play, to allow any registered member more time to do so. If the thread has not been put up by the second day after the game, I will do so, .... .... With minor adjustments, this remained the case until .... Sometimes, after a game, a player adds a comment about the game on the schedule thread. I will move the comment to a new thread on the Reports board, and add a post for the line ups and any other relevant information. This has happened several times. .... .... Currently, if no one else adds a post-game report or comment before then, I put up a thread two days after the game, in the morning. .... .... In February 2012, the bare thread was brought forward to the day after the game, at night. By May 2012, it settled to the day after the game. That is not to say it hasn't been late on several occasions. Several players have started threads themselves. However, most wait for me to start the thread. From today onwards, I will put up the report thread as soon as I can after the game kicks off. This will allow any player to add a report/comment while the game is still fresh. Of course, it may be delayed if I am playing, or at the game, or otherwise engaged at the time.
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Post by Rajiv on Dec 15, 2012 9:54:24 GMT 8
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