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Post by Rajiv on Jan 4, 2012 14:06:24 GMT 8
I just want to re-iterate on sliding tackles, be it side, back, front, etc. .... .... provide: .... Fouls are inevitable in a game. .... Call the foul during the game, but don't hold the game up too long to resolve any dispute. If it cannot be resolved during the game, and the issue is serious enough, raise in on the post-game reports and comments thread. In order to have a fruitful discussion of any serious incident, and to allow other players to add their views, the incident should be described in some detail on the report thread. |
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Post by Rajiv on Jan 11, 2012 12:26:45 GMT 8
For one reason or another, we occasionally have an uneven number of players for a game. Last night's game was stuck with uneven numbers, so 6 v 7. .... Suggestions: 1) For team having numerical advantage, I think they should only be allowed them to score from outside the semi-circle. That will make the team with lesser players has a bit more defensive advantage. ... For the big pitch at Sports Planet, the Playing Rules & Principles actually provides: .... .... The team with the extra player is restricted in its scoring, either to within an imaginary one-third line from the opposing goal (at The Cage and the big pitch at Sports Planet) or within the D around the opposing goal (at the Premier Pitch and the small pitch at Sports Planet). If the team that is a player short is losing badly in the second half of the game, a player from the side with the extra player should switch to the team with a player short. The scoring restriction is also switched. .... I'm surprised a scoring restriction wasn't applied last night, as a scoring restriction on the side with an extra player is a long standing principle, first raised on the old blog in January 2009, and first raised on this message board in October 2010. I think restricting the scoring to within the D or the line running through the penalty spot, rather than outside that area, is more effective in countering a numerical advantage. We can also have: Even with uneven numbers, our games can be competitive and fun, if the players, especially the regulars, adapt the game suitably. Like everything else relating to our games, the above is open to discussion.
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Post by Rajiv on Jan 21, 2012 10:05:28 GMT 8
.... I've merged the "GIFFA tagline/slogan" thread into the ["People & standards"] thread, and renamed [that] thread "GIFFA values, principles & standards". As GIFFA principles will be dealt with under [that] thread, I have renamed [this] thread as "GIFFA system & playing rules". .... |
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Post by Rajiv on Jan 23, 2012 9:15:54 GMT 8
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Post by Rajiv on Jan 25, 2012 12:03:00 GMT 8
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Post by Rajiv on Jan 30, 2012 8:28:28 GMT 8
.... The prohibition is now against hard studs and blades. Those made from softer materials will have to be reviewed on a case by case basis. I have changed the rule as follows: .... * Please use suitable footwear for our games. All our games are on astro pitch. [red] Hard studs/blades are not allowed. [/red]If you do not already have one, please get a pair of all-weather astro shoes with rubber-pimpled soles as soon as possible. .... The link in the above passage has been changed to the latest post on the matter, quoted in the first post above. As we now have a minimum standard for our regular games, I have also made the following change to the Playing Rules & Principles: |
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Post by Foo Cheong on Jan 30, 2012 17:46:17 GMT 8
.... If it is seen as a game of two halves, as advocated by Rajiv, then it should not be a case of swapping just one player. Captains should pick the line-ups again, and a few players can be swapped. Then the problem of whether everyone brings two sets of jerseys arises. That's why the system requires that everyone bring both colours.  But how many actually do? |
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Post by Rajiv on Jan 30, 2012 17:57:05 GMT 8
Not everyone, but many do. But that's why I keep reminding everyone.
The same with many of our rules and requirements really, the need for repeated reminders.
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Post by Rajiv on Feb 6, 2012 11:28:25 GMT 8
.... Other mergers I have in mind: * "Rain policy" into "GIFFA system & playing rules". .... .... Done. To reiterate, the rain policy for the uncovered pitches is that we go ahead with the game even if it is drizzling, and the game will only be cancelled if it is pouring in the hour before the game. Only two games have ever been cancelled due to a wet pitch, both Thursday night games at East Coast, on 25 November 2010 and 2 December 2010. Both games could have gone on, but at that time, several players were not familiar with playing on a wet pitch and didn't want to play after it rained, even though it had stopped more than an hour before the game. Please remember: .... ...., the game is on unless I SMS those playing (or make other arrangements) to inform them that it is cancelled. .... .... If it starts raining a few hours before the game, I may provide updates on the schedule thread. |
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Post by Rajiv on Feb 10, 2012 10:48:05 GMT 8
Up to now, I've been fairly liberal in modifying the system and rules to deal with changing circumstances and new situations. However, it's reaching a stage where I need to be more careful about making further changes. .... When I suggest something different, anyone is free to point out to me that it is not consistent with some other stated principle.  . |
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Post by Rajiv on Feb 20, 2012 23:18:45 GMT 8
After the recent discussions on the "Safety" thread, I have amended the Playing Rules & Principles as follows: .... * As all our games are played on astro turf, astro shoes are recommended. For the covered pitches at Turf City and Kallang, trainers suffice, so studs/blades are not allowed. For the uncovered pitches at East Coast and Khalsa, trainers do not suffice. Pending a review, studs/blades are allowed. However, do try to get a pair of astro shoes as soon as possible. The review will conclude at the end of June 2012. * [red] The following are not allowed during a game[/red]: * sliding tackle
* raising of foot above knee level.
* tackle from behind
* tackle where the sole of the shoe makes contact with an opposing player
* body check
* shoulder charge
* raising of elbow
* outstretched arm
* raising of knee when jumping
* pushing
* holding
If significant contact is made with an opposing player by any of the above, it is a foul (even if the ball is won), with a free kick to the opposing side if committed outside the D and a penalty if committed inside the D. Any player who repeatedly commits such fouls will be suspended. * Reckless and dangerous play or striking or intentionally stamping on an opponent will result in suspension. Any player who intentionally commits or attempts to commit a foul or other act which risks causing injury to an opponent, or instigates or attempts to instigate another player to do will be suspended. This could include calling out to a team mate to commit a foul on an opposing player. .... I've also made the following changes: * As player swaps hardly ever occur, I have removed the passage on making a player swap for one-sided games. However, I have retained a reference to player swaps for games with uneven numbers. * I have streamlined the position on playing to the side-lines or side nets/walls. * The quotation of the periods of suspension has been removed. For now, it will entirely discretionary. The quotation of the example of calling out to a team mate to bring down an opponent has also been removed. This is now in the main body of the rules. |
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Post by Foo Cheong on Feb 21, 2012 8:18:49 GMT 8
I accidentally knocked Leo with my studs on his ankles late in the game and I hope he's okay; though I was honestly surprised when he said we were not supposed to be wearing studs for he game. I had a similar knock from Stan a couple of weeks back and so I know how painful it could be - sorry. From a bigger picture point of view, I think Rajiv you should go for a standard for shoes, instead of separate rules for both venues. Consistency will make it much easier to build your player base (I like how now the shirt colors are consistent across venues), and will also reduce conflict in the long run when people move from one venue to the next and experience different rules. ie. I got really angry last Wed when I got stamped by studs at Khalsa before I was told that it was ok to wear those shoes there. Some advocates of blades justify the use of blades by saying they will exercise restraint. In such an event, when a player is stomped on (whether with studs or with blades), would restraint be considered to have worked? |
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Post by Rajiv on Feb 21, 2012 10:38:44 GMT 8
I think restraint applies to all foul play, whether it be body checks or tackles from behind. There is a risk of injury from all foul play. I've been caught by Lester's studs before, and it was painful, but the risk of serious injury is greater from some of the other forms of foul play. Sometimes, it is more worrying that players think that because they are wearing astro shoes instead of blades, they can go in harder on tackles. That is a misconception I need to disabuse all players of. All safety issues are equally important. In the end, being on the receiving end of Lester's studs didn't put Leo out of action, a sprained ankle from the Sunday game at Turf City did. |
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Post by Kelvin Au on Feb 21, 2012 22:52:39 GMT 8
Sometimes, it is more worrying that players think that because they are wearing astro shoes instead of blades, they can go in harder on tackles. That is a misconception I need to disabuse all players of. Can't help but feel that this is somewhat the case (true)...  |
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Post by Jamie on Feb 22, 2012 12:48:00 GMT 8
Sometimes, it is more worrying that players think that because they are wearing astro shoes instead of blades, they can go in harder on tackles. That is a misconception I need to disabuse all players of. Can't help but feel that this is somewhat the case (true)... Ditto!  |
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Post by Rajiv on Mar 15, 2012 18:24:00 GMT 8
Sometimes, overly robust games, and bad tackles during the game, are discussed on the report thread, with players disagreeing on how bad it was. Personally, I'd like to hear from the players involved in the tackle/foul. .... Sometimes, incidents seem worse in the re-telling (a game of broken telephone anyone?), or when described by a player not involved in the incident (a matter of literary licence?), .... A foul is a foul, call it and carry on. A bad tackle might warrant an apology. Some players are gracious enough to give one, .... Malice is an altogether different thing, and will result in at least a suspension. For that, I need a complaint from the player on the receiving end to initiate the process. |
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Post by Rajiv on Mar 20, 2012 11:36:54 GMT 8
.... Need to control slide tackles to the legs as Nordin was hurt in one and Lachlan was caught in another. .... .... There have been sufficient reminders that sliding tackles are not allowed. .... Everyone, especially our older players, should have a reasonable expectation of being able to play in our games without being on the receiving end of a sliding tackle (or other bad tackle). .... If I believe that a player has been reminded a suffcient number of times about a particular rule, but breaks it again, I have no choice but to give him a final reminder. After that, if he breaks the same rule again, he will be blocked from playing, at least for a period of time. More so for rules that relate to safety, but it will also be applicable to other rules, such as taking turns in goal, and being early for games. There are repeated reminders of the rules on the message board and in the monthly e-mail Updates. And every schedule thread includes: |
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Post by Rajiv on Apr 4, 2012 14:03:16 GMT 8
.... Quote of the day: "Guard your man!! Hold on to his shirt if you need to!" (personally I think this is unnecessary and uncalled for .. even when we don't actually mean it) .... Reminds me of the following passage from the "Playing Styles And Foul Play" post on the old blog (dated 29 January 2009): It comes down to what was meant by the first quote. If it means track an opposing player at all times, we can let it pass. If it means hold on to your opponent so that he can't get away from you, then its not acceptable. I've added the following to the "Playing Rules & Principles": .... * ..., committing a deliberate foul, or calling out to a team mate to commit a deliberate foul, clearly amounts to not playing in the right spirit. .... The above post on the old blog was the first attempt to identify rules for our games. |
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Post by Raj Singh on Apr 5, 2012 9:32:51 GMT 8
Haha Old good days - Kinda miss Tom and Franco though |
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Post by Rajiv on Apr 11, 2012 16:17:41 GMT 8
I would also like to add my 2 cents worth. There were a few "not-so-nice" brushes which happned during the night. Having seen the brushes myself, I think it would only be fair that a person from the same team makes the comment. Whites were generally the offenders here. .... Playing against the fence - As we play off the fencing surrounding the pitch, we often get stuck next to the fence. Challenges in this area tend to end up with leg hacks, plenty of shoving and generally not so "friendly" actions. If we dont play like that away from the fence, the why do we do that at the fence? I've added the following to the list of things that are not allowed under the Playing Rules & Principles: * kicking or hacking a player. * tripping a player. |
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