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Post by Rajiv on Sept 21, 2012 22:12:47 GMT 8
.... I have no objections in principle to giving the $2 credit for a first report to someone who isn't playing but comes down to watch the game. However, the credit is stated to be for the first player, which implies someone who plays in that game. If anyone thinks spectators should also be entitled to the $2 credit for the first report, add your views below. Unless and until there is a change in the position, spectators can still provide reports or comments, whether they are the first to do so or not, because they enjoy doing so, or just because want to. I think it is only fair that a spectactor would get $2 credit for the first report. We are already glad that a spectactor would take the effort to show up and often they have the most insightful, balanced and often funniest reports... Well, the counter argument is that spectators get to watch good football for free, and they're so inspired by what they see they rush back to write a report.  As a spectator writes because he enjoys it, does he really need a further reward in the form of a $2 credit? The credit is ultimately a form of "rebate". As spectators don't pay, it's hard to justify a "rebate". I'll put it up as a poll on the Stand-Alone Polls sub-board anyway, to see what the majority think. .... I'll keep the poll open until more than half of the players on Approved List A have voted. We currently have about 160 players on Approved List A. On a separate note: .... ..., for those who enjoy writing: .... ...., until further notice, I'll give $1 credit to any approved player who provides a first report under the OPSAGE category of any game he plays in (excluding our regular men's games or team matches, which are reported under the Men's Games category) or watches. No one has taken it up yet. |
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Post by Martijn on Sept 23, 2012 15:37:32 GMT 8
Hi Rajiv, The ones who write reports are often injured players. I personally believe it adds to the soul of GIFFA if they come as spectators and would incentivise them with a small token of appreciation if they write a report. Thinking about it differently, why disincentivise them writing a firt report by treating them differently? Anyway, great idea to put it up for a poll although 160 voters seems ambitious. What about making a decision based on the standing poll after one or two months?
Cheers, Martijn
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Post by Rajiv on Sept 23, 2012 22:18:29 GMT 8
I'll close the poll when half have voted, so, as things stand, that would be about 80. As a rebate, $2 amounts to 14-20%, which is quite a lot for a regular player, but it isn't that great an incentive for a spectator doing a report, is it? If they are watching for free for the love of the game, then they can write for free for the love of the game too. The first player to add his views after still gets the $2 credit. |
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Post by Rajiv on Mar 10, 2013 9:29:09 GMT 8
We need a lot more to vote in this poll, for it to take effect. I'll give it until the end up June 2013.
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Post by Rajiv on Oct 4, 2015 11:35:21 GMT 8
From the "Reports, polls & chat" thread: .... I put up a poll on the Stand-Alone Polls board, asking if spectators should be entitled to the first report credit. As there was only four votes: We need a lot more to vote in this poll, for it to take effect. I'll give it until the end up June 2013. There are still only four votes. More recently: - Damian added a report for the game on Sunday, 12 July 2015, which he came down to watch, post-surgery. While it was not the first report, it was interesting to read a spectator's perspective.
- Over the past few months, there is often no report for the Saturday game. For the game on 12 September 2015, Rockstar, who was neither playing, nor at the game, posted in jest a generic template style "first report". That motivated Cedric, who actually played, to provide the score, adding "Credit to [Rockstar]". I shared the $2 credit between them, $1 each. The $2 first report credit would ordinarily have gone to Cedric. Although Rockstar's "first report" was a joke, I took Cedric's comment to mean he would share the credit with Rockstar.
Where a player is entitled to the $2 first report credit adds a comment from which it appears he wants to share his credit with, or transfer his credit to, anyone else, whether another player from the game, a spectator, or any other GIFFA Player, I will do so.
I will close the poll on the Stand-Alone Polls board.
And from the report thread for the game on Saturday, 26 September 2015:
Seeing as I was central to the game taking place, I think I should post the game report. Particularly as Rockstar is lurking to post another nonsense report. .... At least the "nonsense report" incentivised others, which is the main aim of the credits anyway. .... The poll is now locked. |
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Post by Rajiv on Aug 13, 2016 10:14:14 GMT 8
Raj was the first to do a report for the game at the Grandstand on Saturday, 6 August 2016, even though he wasn't playing. In fact, he wasn't even there, but based his report on information provided to him:  For now, I'll give the credit to the first to do a report even if he is not playing provided that: - The person doing the report is a GIFFA Player.
- The report is affirmed (expressly or impliedly) by another GIFFA Player who played in the game before any other player who played in the game does a report. In this case, Augustine was the next to post, correcting Raj on the ball credit, which impliedly affirms the rest of his report.
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