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Post by Rajiv on Oct 15, 2011 23:11:55 GMT 8
This thread currently deals with the above subject matter. Announcements and developments relating to the subject matter are posted below. Go to the last page (by clicking the largest number to the left of "NEXT >>" above) for the latest announcement/development. As the subject matter has been modified from time to time, as described in various posts below, any given post may not fall squarely within the subject matter. As at 17 February 2014, this first post on this thread was: Each game is assigned two colours - white and red for 7/8-a-side games, white and black for 5-a-side games. Everyone should bring both colours. Not bring both colours or the right colour can lead to arbitrary changes to the line ups. .... If you only have one colour available, let me know, and I will factor it in when suggesting the line ups. .... This is sometimes the case for newer players, who may not have all the colours, or those who play frequently, who may not have time to wash the colour that they have used recently. You should let me know beforehand, rather than just turn up in the wrong colour. For team matches, the person putting together the team can decide on the team's colour. Even multi-coloured. ....   I've renamed this thread "Team colours". |
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Post by Rajiv on Oct 20, 2011 8:51:20 GMT 8
We've discussed footwear elsewhere. From BBC Football:  I am making them required footwear for our games. We've also discussed the kind of ball we use, both on the old blog (first on 13 July 2009) and again on the message board, under the "Safety" thread. The main consideration then was safety. However, as a majority of our games are now on uncovered pitches, ball control in wet conditions is a significant factor. The smaller, reduced bounce, futsal would appear to be better for control in wet conditions, and are available at Sports Planet. However, they are not available at Khalsa. As for the standard football provided by Khalsa: .... It was a rather wayward ball which seems plastic and we had no other choice as it was the only ball available. ..... Controlling the ball was difficult so was dribbling it. .... one major difference I think would be the ball. It really is very different playing with such a light and bouncy ball. We kept losing possession so easily.. Even simple passes were horrible.. For the match on 1 September 2011, we used a reduced bounce ball instead of the ball provided by Khalsa: .... Some of the players on the losing side last week commented on the ball, which they were not used to. I think the same applied to Whites last night with the use of the reduced bounce ball. The ball can be a big factor. The pace of the game, the ease of control, the flight of the ball can all be different. Even top professionals are affected by minor changes in the ball. .... , control is even more important. I'm fine with using a reduced bounce ball at Khalsa. However, as Khalsa don't provide such balls, and we don't always have the same players playing week in week out, the difficulty is in arranging for a reduced bounce ball to be available at every Khalsa game. For the Wednesday game at Khalsa, I understand that when Lynz is playing, he brings a reduced bounce ball.
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Post by Rajiv on Oct 30, 2011 14:04:07 GMT 8
.... Stanley Wore Boots .... I believe Stan D Man uses a pair of blades. I have previously spoken to him about that, and he says he takes care. He's one of our more technical players, so the risks may be lesser, but there is still some risk both to other players and himself. After yesterday's game, and after he had already left, it was pointed out to me that Steve F had been wearing boots (presumably blades, not studs). I hadn't noticed it myself. As far as safety is concerned, the position on blades is slightly ambiguous compared to studs, which are clearly disallowed. However, as a matter of standardizing equipment for our games, I will increasingly insist on rubber-pimple soled astro shoes per se. Previously I had pointed out the difficulty we face: I don't think we can insist that who those turn up with blades don't play (or play without boots even ). .... I suppose we can insist they change to trainers ( which are ok for the covered pitches, but will leave them slipping and sliding if the uncovered pitches are wet from rain). If they don't have trainers, perhaps we should insist they play in their socks. Regulars in particular, as they should know better. |
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Post by Bobby on Oct 31, 2011 11:47:01 GMT 8
So, are blades definitively disallowed at all our venues now?
I personally would prefer to continue using blades for the Khalsa pitch unless it is expressly disallowed.
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Post by Rajiv on Oct 31, 2011 15:02:21 GMT 8
So, are blades definitively disallowed at all our venues now? I personally would prefer to continue using blades for the Khalsa pitch unless it is expressly disallowed. Have you tried the all-weather astro shoes with rubber pimple soles? I believe they are far better suited for the astro pitches we play on: * The risk of slipping on a wet pitch is less than blades. * The risk of causing injury to other players with blades is eliminated. * The risk of turning your ankle should the blades get caught in the turf, or because blades, like studs, are less stable than ordinary sports shoes, is also eliminated. I am moving towards requiring astro shoes. Perhaps early in the new year, if not from the start. |
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Post by Rajiv on Nov 3, 2011 22:54:49 GMT 8
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Post by Rajiv on Dec 12, 2011 12:14:57 GMT 8
.... White and black continue to be used at The Cage (4 or 5-a-side). .... If The Cage regulars want to switch to White and Red (as is the case for all our 7/8-a-side games), add your views below. |
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Post by Raj Singh on Dec 12, 2011 13:15:20 GMT 8
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Post by Rajiv on Dec 19, 2011 11:28:10 GMT 8
Or maybe he's a Juventus fan:  |
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Post by Rajiv on Jan 13, 2012 10:44:47 GMT 8
Every game is designated two colours, white and red for all 7-a-side games, and white and black for the 5-a-side games at Kallang. The schedule thread clearly provides: .... ..... Even though a specific colour may be assigned to each player before the game, please bring both a white top and a red top. .... And when I suggest or confirm the line ups and team colours, I always add: Everyone should have a white top. For those who do not have a red top, any bright or dark colour distinguishable from white will do. For those who do not have a black top, any dark colour will do. I do take into account player's circumstances: .... If you only have one colour available, let me know, and I will factor it in when suggesting the line ups. .... This is sometimes the case for newer players, who may not have all the colours, or those who play frequently, who may not have time to wash the colour that they have used recently. You should let me know beforehand, rather than just turn up in the wrong colour. However: It's not unknown for a player to request a particular colour in order to use a new jersey: .... its just for a few games. its my new gareth bale shirt i got in bangers! Even then, still bring the other colour as well. When there is a late change in line ups, I have been SMSing the players whose team colour has been changed. With team selectors, and the colours not being assigned until the line ups are confirmed, I may not SMS the players affected anymore. .... Let's hope the players affected ... follow the system, and bring both colours (or at least the colour they have been swapped to). |
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Post by Rajiv on Jan 13, 2012 11:45:22 GMT 8
.... The type of ball we use might also make a difference. We tend to use a reduced bounce ball at Turf City and at Sports Planet ..., while using a normal football at Khalsa. The reduced bounce ball tends to promote shorter passing. I actually had two futsals at home which I bought back in 2008/2009. One reason I stopped using them was that when fully inflated, they are significantly harder than a standard football, thus increasing the risk of injury. On Wednesday, I countered this by having the ball slightly deflated. It worked out well. The other two significant equipment issues for our games are tops and shoes. For tops: Everyone should bring both designated colours for every game. For shoes, astro shoes should be used instead of studs/blades. At least two more players who used to wear plastic blades have switched to astro shoes. .... Anyone else still wearing plastic studs/blades? There is a more thorough discussion of the risks of plastic blades/studs on the Safety thread. |
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Post by Rajiv on Feb 8, 2012 16:48:39 GMT 8
.... Other mergers I have in mind: .... * "Team colours" and "Standardizing equipment" .... .... As this, the former "Team colours" thread, had more page views, and I wanted to keep the poll on this thread, I've moved the posts from the "Standardizing equipment" thread to this thread. However, as "Standardizing equipment" is the broader subject, I've renamed this thread as "Standardizing equipment". I've received e-mails from two of our newer expat players as to where to get all-weather astro shoes from. The first, last week: The second, today: My replies on both occasions: As I have pointed out before, unless you're familiar with the shops, it's not that easy to find all-weather astro shoes. Also from the Safety thread: .... Places you can get rubber-soled football shoes suitable for astroturf: * Carl has referred us to Pro-Direct, an online football store and Queensway Weston. * Nick C mentioned the third floor at Peninsula Shopping Centre. * Clive mentioned shops selling hockey gear (as hockey is played only on astroturf). If you know of specific shops that sell rubber-soled shoes, please provide details below. Providing details in this thread works as well. |
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Post by Rajiv on May 25, 2012 22:36:24 GMT 8
From the game last night (Thursday) at Khalsa: We use a reduced bounce ball at East Coast and Turf City, but a normal ball at Khalsa and Kallang. Players do get used to a particular ball, and don't like to change. I'm not sure if we can standardize the ball, or need to. |
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Post by Rajiv on Jul 3, 2012 21:22:32 GMT 8
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Post by Rajiv on Oct 11, 2012 10:50:22 GMT 8
Using blue as one of the team colours has come up a few times in connection with the game at East Coast: can we wear different colors tdy eg. Blue vs Red or White Whats all this Whites vs Reds colour system. I thought we were swapping to Blue or allstars. Can we wear blue as i got a blue gym top i didnt wash since the weekend! ... Note: New colour Blue, does this pose a problem to anyone? On each occasion, it's been Chen Hong or Murray. Murray is Everton, so I can see why he favours blue. I'm not sure about Chen Hong. Maybe he just likes variety? On the last two occasions, my responses were: .... I suppose those on blue who are already out with red and white tops will just have to use their red tops - making the Royal Blues the Multi-Colours.  As long as players are forewarned about a change in colour, I have no problem with it. The colours for the Kallang game are still white and black. When we first started assigning colours, it was white/light, black/dark, red/bright. I suppose unless it is a light blue, blue would fall under dark. Forewarning should be given the day before though, including on the schedule thread for that game. Players sometimes leave home in the morning with the two pre-assigned colours, and don't go home before the game. And it appears easier to replace red with blue, rather than to replace white with blue. Even if the team ends up as a mix of red and blue, at least the contrast with white is clearer. .... I suppose it makes no difference to Boon and Rai who will be Barca multi colour anyway ... |
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Post by Rajiv on Nov 16, 2012 18:52:25 GMT 8
Continuing from the above post, the following was posted on the schedule thread for the Monday's game this week: Pleasestick to regular jersey colors..... It was confusing in the last game. If the wish is to change colours for a game in the long term, put up a poll. As for making sure there is sufficient contrast between the two team colours: .... unless it's WHITEs vs any OTHER colour.  And of course, White's stick to WHITE. |
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Post by Rajiv on Dec 13, 2012 8:47:54 GMT 8
In January 2010, white and black were made the colours for all our games. This was when most of our games were 5-a-side. Soon after, white and red became the norm for the weekend games. With the poll at the start of this thread, white and red became the norm for all our 7 and 8-a-side games between January and June 2011. We continued with white and black for the 5-a-side games at Kallang. From time to time, less regular players at Kallang have used red instead of black. More recently, one of the team selectors for the Kallang game has asked for his team to play in red, for example, on 16 October 2012, 6 November 2012, 4 December 2012, This Tuesday (11 December 2012), a couple of players who play more often in our 7-a-side games at East Coast or Khalsa had red tops instead of black tops. I'll go ahead and make the change. From next week onwards, the colours for games at Kallang will be white and red as well, bringing all our games in line. |
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Post by Rajiv on Dec 15, 2012 20:02:23 GMT 8
The type of ball we use continues to be an issue at Khalsa. From the report on the Wednesday night game at Khalsa: .... .... ... the big, bouncy ball hard to control - in particular for accurate passes and the goallies. .... .... .... ... we should use size 4 / low bounce balls for futsal - wet pitch, or no wet pitch The big bounce ball favors the long ball route 1 punt style, that some groups of people are inclined to play The use of the long ball in our games is discussed elsewhere. Previously: .... We've also discussed the kind of ball we use, both on the old blog (first on 13 July 2009) and again on the message board, under the "Safety" thread. The main consideration then was safety. However, as a majority of our games are now on uncovered pitches, ball control in wet conditions is a significant factor. The smaller, reduced bounce, futsal would appear to be better for control in wet conditions, , and are available at Sports Planet. ..... .... Jye usually brings a size-4 reduced bounce ball for the Saturday games at Turf City. As he didn't have one for today, he asked on the WhatsApp group chat if anyone else had one. Foo Cheong said he would bring his. We could try to standardize all our games with a size-4 reduced bounce ball. However, only Sports Planet @ East Coast provide such a ball. All our other regulars venues only provide standard size-5 balls. To standardize all our games with a size-4 reduced bounce ball would either require a player bringing such a ball for every game, or arranging with our regular venues to make such a ball available for our games. As players come and go, and the personnel for a game changes from week to week, relying on players to bring the requisite ball may not work. For example, after I left such a ball with Wee Teck, he stopped playing. Making suitable arrangements with our regular venues would probably be more reliable. However, I need to work out suitable arrangements with each, so that might take some time. In the meantime, if anyone thinks a size-4 reduced bounce ball is not suitable for our games, please address it on this thread.
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Post by Babs on Dec 15, 2012 21:23:46 GMT 8
I don't get why people would want to use a size 5 ball, basically an 11 a side ball on a smaller futsal pitch?! It's nonsensical! If you want to use and play with a size 5 why not stick to playing 11 a side on a full size pitch! When I have played with a size 5, at Khalsa & Turf City, both times it has felt to big, beach ball like & the game has been scrappy with the ball being too bouncy and often miss controlled!
From my knowledge the only people who prefer & suggest using the size 5 ball is David T & his friends, it is usually an idea rejected by the other playing staff on the day but a few times has got through. David T & his group however are all quality players so they can play with any size ball!
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Post by Kelvin Au on Dec 27, 2012 1:36:42 GMT 8
I don't get why people would want to use a size 5 ball, basically an 11 a side ball on a smaller futsal pitch?! It's nonsensical! If you want to use and play with a size 5 why not stick to playing 11 a side on a full size pitch! When I have played with a size 5, at Khalsa & Turf City, both times it has felt to big, beach ball like & the game has been scrappy with the ball being too bouncy and often miss controlled! From my knowledge the only people who prefer & suggest using the size 5 ball is David T & his friends, it is usually an idea rejected by the other playing staff on the day but a few times has got through. David T & his group however are all quality players so they can play with any size ball! It suits their style of play - which is the long ball into the box. It's harder to 'chip' the ball with the heavier/low bounce balls. |
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Each game is assigned two colours - white and red for 7/8-a-side games, white and black for 5-a-side games. Everyone should bring both colours. 
