Post by Just D James on Feb 26, 2016 17:49:16 GMT 8
Rajiv yourr quote:
"Not like your big bold ego then Dennis, blazing like a supernova, always ready to force itself down anyone's throat? There are different types of prima donnas Dennis - "A person who thinks she or he is better than everyone else and who does not work well as part of a team or group" - who does that remind us of?"
You are the Lordship of this forum bro - I have no ego left - then again if I did, why do people still come to Tuesday games playing in same team as I do? surely I cannot be as bad as you say bro? tell me something I might be missing still?
not seeking to apologise or pointing out fragile egos cannot surely be a sign of ego on my part? i dont think I force myself on anyone's throat these days - you make it sound so phallic buddy - surely you can think of something more appropriate.
anyway to close this issue - lest I get slapped with a 200 word restraint - then accused of being too quiet - I shall submit this:
I apologise unreservedly to the captain of last night's game for making a substitution without first getting permission.
hope everyone can get a good night's sleep after this.
Post by Just D James on Feb 26, 2016 17:34:42 GMT 8
well the alternative to what you are suggesting Rajiv, would be for Loic to walk off injured and then for the team to be one man down? which is easier? I come into the game, play in defence and Loic sits out injured and the game carries on?
Should I pray for dispensation from the captain and say "Loic is injured can I now come in?"
I am just concerned for the safety of my friend and another fellow player. I could have not participated really but the reds would have been one down.
Cedric, I am not saying u r making excuses but rather at those people who chose or dare not be named and raise it to you about my "coaching" from the sidelines.
And no, I disagree - the reds were pretty poor - so unless you meant the whites played well - the harsh truth - like United is in current day - we were awful - can anyone really say hands to heart they had a good game and played well? Since you claimed u didnt know the players and then you had a line up in mind and how to rejig? I honestly didnt know that because u told me Rajiv selected the team and you didnt know their strengths - I was just lending a hand - I didnt know you didnt appreciate it - so now I suddenly know. I apologise for interfering by offering advice, you could have disagreed but you didnt. So based on your account of events, is it unreasonable for me to make suggestions when I have played with everyone before and know what were their best positions? I did that and now I am vilified for "spoiling" the game and possibility contributing to the loss? again seriously?
so that's really my bone of contention - not really whether my actions were warranted - its not about who's right or wrong -
anyway the zip rule was in application - and we have all learnt to respect it in tandem - so the problem could have been easily dealt with if someone had issue with me "coaching" from the sides
in fact Raphael said, there was no issue from his end, except perhaps an advantage that I could be seeing some things which our own players on the pitch couldnt such as telling people to mark up on the back post - otherwise he didnt see any issue from his end, or any one in his team having complaints -
Its really some selected individuals - so its not having me disagree Rajiv, its about taking things out of hand again as usual - like I said, I was just helping out with numbers on Thursday and you did say there was a spot for 2 - because if its only 1 - then I wouldnt come - you knew that explicitly.
and for the record, all my messages to you now henceforth on whatsapp are confidential - please dont post them on the forum again - i work in a institution where private client's information are absolutely secrecy so that's really something preferred. thanks.
Jiv, as for the ball credit - similar to your random imposition of extra charges, I need to claim it for the "exorbitant" charges you choose fit to impose on the impromptu buddy -
I mean, if we had an injury, and if we ask a outsider to join in on the fly, to even up the numbers, you dont suddenly ask him to pay up do you?
but to obviate any further arguments, I wont object to any extra charges - if paying extra can soothe any ruffled feathers - by all means.
Cedric, not to cause any offence, but we already have rules in place for excessive arguments and abuse - zip it is an easy application even for coaching from sidelines (we all agreed there was no abuse or arguments from the sideline) - brainchild of Rajiv - and for someone to report it after and amidst all kinds of accusations - the next day, leaves a certain bad taste - and I totally respect you as an individual - may not agree with your style of skipping the team - as I said, first time I play with you as skip - and given you said so yourself, you dont know the players very well, and I know practically everyone in our team, I thought I was helping out - that's why I am saying its a different approach - if you minded it just tell me - and dont chit chat smile and everything's fine with me after the game, then to drop a post like I committed murder the next day as if I looked at your girl without your permission bro - i think you are alot bigger than that bro - I respect u - I know your bro too remember?
Loic toe was stubbed and the game was stopped, I didnt know there was a formal application to submit to the captain's permission before making a sub. next time if it happens I will submit one.
Post by Just D James on Feb 26, 2016 15:00:55 GMT 8
well well not again lads - like I say fragile egos and people hiding behind mummy's skirts - for those who have the guts - own up and say yeah we had a bad game - no organisation, marking was poor, positioning and touch horrible - again if someone had issue with me "coaching" from the sides, then tell me - I think when Calvin came to me towards the latter half of the game, I heeded his advice, altho he said its the other team - and I just asked Raphael and he wasnt aware of anyone in his team having an issue with me on the sidelines. so I am equally puzzled about what the fuzz was all about.
So if anyone in the Reds had an issue come up to me and I will apologise - losing after the fact of the matter, and then attributing it to other reasons? that's really unacceptable so I dont think an apology is in order.
I only signed up on Thurs because I heard there were a shortage of players - so in this case, perhaps I was mistaken and trying too hard to help out -
I gave Loic the change to play only because he was leaving and very keen to play - anyway I think Cedric I will take it in right spirit and its the first time I will played with you as skip, but I dont see the big issue whether it was Loic or me - only difference is Loic is a forward and I was too defensive. In any case I was critical only of Loic and Steeves when they were playing.
But nevertheless thanks for the feedback, you captaining style is clearly different from what some of us are used to - but I dont thnk I will owe anyone any apology at all - no abuse came from me - nor was I infringing any particular rules as I recall.
Rajiv if it helps to deduct payment from me - sure thing - btw ball credit to me for Tuesday and last night's game -
Loic was injured and would have had to stay out after someone stomped on his toe accidentally n he was bleeding so would everyone have preferred an imbalance or a ready replacement - ? so go figure.
Credit to the whites for being the better team - from a neutral perspective, it was fairly obvious. As mentioned again, bringing the spare player was not to have an unfair advantage, it was because there was an injury to a player and the swop only because the injury occured.
anyway to avoid too many whys and wherefores - deduct the payment accordingly. doesnt really matter to me.
I am just perturbed that people dont speak it during or after the game and only upon losing, as usual - excuses galore!
come on take it as a man, and give credit to the other team - they were better and more cohesive, fitter and hustling all over the pitch.
in short, I dont think I disrespected the captain in any way - so let's not even go there....seriously guys?
Post by Just D James on Feb 25, 2016 14:04:22 GMT 8
now now guys - I was assuming the 200 words constraint was still on me - and there was really nothing much left to say - but given that I am being requested to comment - let me just say:
Loic was really injured - he had stubbed and bleeding toe - but when Ian told me he had a tweaked knee and Loic insisted that he was fine if called upon, then I lent him my spare gear.
Honestly we were really already 3 up, even before the rolling subs took effect, but rather than play a man short, I think all will agree that in this unique instance - for once instead of having someone walk off the game supposedly injured - we had someone replace another because of a real injury.
I can also vouch for Loic after having seen his bleeding toe after the game.
So if anyone sees fit to impose penalties, I dont have any objection but surely the Reds wouldnt want to claim victory in such controversial manner and would surely rather win the game based on merits, skill and tactics - so the question should be asked: did the reds really deserve their victory? were they the better team, having conceded to 5.5 men within 10 minutes and affording them a shocking 3 goal lead - I mean the rolling sub is jus an impromptu course of action - there was really no intention to obtain any unfair advantage - if any offense was taken, my wholehearted apologies - it was not our intention - we were just applying precautionary safety first rules on injury and Loic will be Loic - he's lion hearted, even if he had only one leg, he couldnt be faulted for his enthusiasm and effort! I recall saying he is our Aubameyang didnt I? 8p
Plus credit to Ian for running his guts out despite his tweaked knee and then his pulled calf - we needed a colossal effort from everyone because the Reds were so blady strong - and my my, colossals efforts all round to put in that shift last Tuesday - the scoreline showed what Tues night Champions League entertainment at the Grandstand was all about! it was a really good effort from both teams. the scoreline was really unimportant. we have in the absence of certain individuals - demonstrated what Tues night football was all about - not squabbles or witchhunts or incessant finger pointing and backstabbing - but good fun in football - we now know who the real perpetrators of killers of tuesday blockbuster night entertainment - with real men turning up for tuesday nights, these are the type of fun we can all enjoy without accusations and finger pointing! that's the real business and fun of football!
so my final word - claim the victory, the 2 or 3 goal advantage - dock the fees if any one wishes to but at the end of the day, no one can take the credit away from the effort we made as the White underdogs for that night! and I am just glad to be part of the game - among sensible hardworking footballing adults!
Ask Stuart he was drenched after the game as if he had spent 8 hours in the sauna at Joo Chiat! 8))
Post by Just D James on Feb 23, 2016 15:31:10 GMT 8
thanks Rajiv - the only problem is we cannot even decide where the hand is placed - that's the problem!?! that was the inference I was trying to make - for eg. handball called against Stuart for heading the ball into his own hand -
its really a case of ball to hand rather - that's why its so difficult to call unless its a blatant handball which was not the case for our incidents - so I would much prefer - call it all or not at all unless its blatant and an intentional act to bring the ball or interfere with the flight of the ball.
Post by Just D James on Feb 22, 2016 14:43:11 GMT 8
Yas my bro, I dont think it matters where your hands were placed? *I think you were like rubbing your nether regions or something * the point I am making is if we are going to call handballs, let's be consistent and call every ball which hits the hand a handball, else we can argue till the cows come home and still wont find any consistency. Yes the skip decided not to call it, because he saw that it was pointless which is why we din argue at that time, I am just making the point now because your team seemed to play it down conveniently and probably couldnt handle the fact that you let victory slip away at 6-2 up. of course I can accept the draw, like I said, it is a good result since I am comforted that it makes everyone sleep better at night.
Post by Just D James on Jan 26, 2016 16:38:01 GMT 8
btw Honda did come 30 mins late and runined the game for everyone - but there was no apology too? one would have thought that you would feel real bad for letting your team down for being 30 mins late and coupled with a dangerous tackle on the keeper, and arm block off and telling an opponent that he has to man up to your skill and aggression within 10mins into the game?
well done mate. honestly I think you are a good player, skilful and at times to the point of being arrogant, "brazilian jump" too holding the ball between your feet and attempting a jump over 2 opponents...I can admire your style mate, but a tad difficult for me to appreciate your arrogance and callousness to these incidents. maybe you should come down for Tuesday games more often to the correct pitch and let everyone get to know you better and then I will happily offer you my hand and say I have misunderstood u. You are a nice guy afterall.
Post by Just D James on Jan 26, 2016 16:36:19 GMT 8
I think there is an increasing tendency by certain players to over-react, whether it is Dennis or anyone else calling fouls over inconsequential incidents, and then blowing it up, or players reacting to Dennis, and the whole thing getting blown up even more. Over-reacting is often a form of gamesmanship, in the same way simulation or feigning injury is, and needs to be cut out - Dennis has to stop the excessive calling of fouls, and arguing about them, and those playing with him need to be thicker-skinned (as apparently Honda is ).
Honestly as captain in that game I only called 1 if not 2 fouls, the first one was the arm shove by Honda and the 2nd Perm's knee into Clement thigh which sent him to the sidelines for 10 mins. I issued a warning to Honda for a 50-50 challenge on the keeper when the ball was already in his grasp so I am not sure what this gamemanship was all about as there was a lot more arguing by the other team's captain than I did. so "excessive" wasnt the case in mind if you wnat to describe that week's game. the only argument I had was on the arm shove. and I was having a word with my counsel Ian during the game, which some people mistaken it to be argument. Lastly after the game, I walked away from an argument not continue it so need to put things right on that - milud.
Post by Just D James on Jan 26, 2016 16:30:19 GMT 8
Only fair to challenge Honda's allegations he "flicked" his arm at me as he came past me, those at the scene can attest that it was more than a flick (maybe google "flick" for actual definition?) let's not mince words? mate you are not the only one to have played in London, but as you said you dont know history but on tuesday nights no one likes to be shoved or blocked off, I was trying to tackle you and closing you down, you couldnt stand the heat so you used the arm to ward me off. I mean it is really not aggressive but a foul nevertheless because on Tuesday nights we do not condone outstretched arms across another's nicely waxed chest mate! if that's the stance we accepted you wouldnt be only one doing that as Raph and Perminder are often culprits and they are told off for committing a foul. so man up and apologise next time for foul rather than go on half truths to the moderator and play down your mistake. you are a great skilful player maybe best to earn respect through manning up for an action rather than to criticise another player.
Post by Just D James on Jan 26, 2016 15:57:29 GMT 8
I shall keep this short since I am limited to somewhat 200 words only. Admittedly there are some truths to Rajiv's allegations and perspectives. I shall therefore addresses the fallacies only. I didnt stop playing on Sats because I couldnt stamp my values but during the weekend games, there is higher level of maturity and people speak up if they find issue with someone or something. so there is no need for me to speak up at all. I concluded that so many of whom I consider friends do not play weekends, I tend to stick to Tues when friends are available. Furthermore only usual suspects speak up on Tuesdays and at times, I try to keep the peace and uphold the rules but unfortunately I get the tables turned on me and have the culprits whom I have "offended" actually "tell" on me and pull the wool over Rajiv's eyes! so much so that when I speak the truth and nothing but the truth, I get censured. well those who play the game with me and who have not been offended by my reproach know I speak the truth. but anyway, this is not justice league so be it.
Post by Just D James on Jan 19, 2016 12:01:02 GMT 8
very creative thoughts all round and definitely should be given serious thought altho i must add that the zippy outfit will cause slight impediments during open play.
I am not skipper this time round so flash cards would work. Let's hope some individuals actually follow the rules. it gets boring otherwise and if you are getting hammered please dont be so sore about it.....